PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange)

On 11 July 1977 Gay News was defeated in court by Mary Whitehouse’s private prosecution. Gay News was in the process of appealing when it printed the following Editorial repudiating its former stance on PIE. The reaction amongst the paedophile and pro-paedophile rights community who had campaigned for the legal defence of Gay News and its editor Denis Lemon was predictably one of betrayal.

Gay News No 126 [14 – 21 September 1977]

Gay News condemned PIE’s 1975 submission to the Criminal Law Reform Committee.

“We now claim, equally calmly and rationally, that PIE deserves no support from the gay movement — indeed that it is diametrically opposed to the aspirations of both the gay movement and the women’s movement.

The deceptively simple question which non-paedophiles have always needed answering is this. Can there exist, between an adult and a minor, a reciprocal sexual relationship which involves no exploitation of adult’s authority — a mutual relationship where each party is aware of what the experience means to the other, and where concern for the other is as important an element as sexual attraction?

Paedophiles say that such relationships can and do exist, and it is reasonable therefore to let them present their evidence.

That however does not appear to be PIE’s position. In a short document published as evidence to the Criminal Law Revision Committee, PIE urged that sex between adults and minor should not be dealt with by the criminal law but by civil procedures. More harm is done to a child by police, parent and teacher interrogation in preparing evidence for a criminal prosecution than could ever have been done by the original sexual relationship they argue.

What should happen is that those with an interest in the child’s well-being should be entitled to apply for an injunction to stop sex taking place in future between the adult and the child.

At the time it was published, we judged from its length and presentation that the document had been compiled in haste and without great thought, and its compilers had merely overlooked the problems raised by their proposed injunction system. Did they really expect a court to issue an injunction against a man (for man it usually is) without it having been proved that sex had taken place between the man and the child? And would the child therefore no t be interrogated in precisely the same way as before? The system requires that sex should already have taken place. How young does a child have to be before sex with an adult is precluded entirely? 12? 8? No mention of any age.

It now seems that our judgment was wrong. Later events, suggest that PIE knew precisely what it was saying — and the the only real change proposed was that the adult should be able to have sex with a child of any age without there being any consequences at law.

The Chairman of PIE told the Daily Mirror: “There would be no penalty for a paedophile having sex with a child under three years old. But he would probably be prevented from it by a system of injunctions which we would like to see brought in.”


Readers’ responses to Gay News editorial ‘The PIE Affair’ in Gay News No 127 [22 Sept – 5 October 1977]

‘Over-Dramatised Report’ from Graham Wilkinson, Hove, Essex [CHE’s organiser of the Nottingham Conference which caused controversy over Dr Brongersma delivering a speech and a workshop scheduled to discuss Paedophilia]

‘Smug, Self-Righteous’ from Charles Napier, Treasurer of PIE

‘False Sentiment’ from Patrick Wilson, Kent is concerned about PIE’s exploitative lack of regard for the inequality of infancy in adult-child sexual “relationships”

‘Back Stabbing’ from Keith Hose, ex-Chairman on behalf of PIE

‘Straight Paper’ from Terry Waller, N4

‘In Perspective’ from Ian Harvey, W2

‘Lack of Sympathy’ from Tony Deane, N4

‘Nothing Sacrosanct’ from Micky Burbidge, N19 [co-drafter of PIE’s submission to the Criminal Law Reform Committee alongside Keith Hose, Chairman]

‘Slippery Slope’ from Julian Carter, Dorset – a lone voice “Whatever next for CHE – necrophilia perhaps?”

‘Personal Courage’ from Keith Spence, SW4






Readers’ responses to Gay News editorial ‘The PIE Affair’ in Gay News No 128 [22 Sept – 5 October 1977]

‘Mob of Harpies’ from Don Street, London W11 who consumed with guilt at his own cowardice in not confronting the National Front in solidarity with PIE now urges “But if we do nothing, these evil forces will grow” — the evil forces, in his view, are those opposing PIE such as Mary Whitehouse’s NVLA and the Festival of Light.

‘Problem Unanswered’ by Michael Walker of SW1, a PIE member

‘Restrict CHE platforms’ by David A Spencer, Frenchwood, Preston

‘Squalid Level’ from Bill Thornycroft, London SE27: “The victims are not only the adults who realise they have sexual feelings for children but children at large. At present children suffer extreme oppression — any express by children that is seen by adults (especially parents, teachers, police) as being sexual, is slapped down unmercifully.”

‘Not stampeded’ by David M Dancer, Chichester W Sussex

‘Paranoia & Spite’ by Nicholas J Ferguson, London SE24 (formerly of Paedophile Action for Liberation – PAL until merged with PIE in February 1977)

‘Disappointing Response’ by J A Davidson, Herts

‘PIE – Go it Alone’ from Ms PB, Dorset


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Comment from Peter McKelvie:

“I am perplexed by the complete wall of silence in the media following the publication of this story.

This is a major breakthrough but has gone unnoticed it seems.
This is the first time I have read in the media of “evidence” of a link between Leon Brittan and PIE.
I have seen the anonymous letter sent regarding Harding and his connections.
I am also aware of the sources who had first hand acquaintance with Harding and the visitors to his shop in Islington and they are totally credible
The allegations that these visitors included Brittan, Smith and Thorpe, plus the high profile members of PIE who had gone public at the time, are very credible
The reason for a return to a conspiracy of silence by the media does not bode well for survivors of abuse by very powerful networks”
Clockmaker Keith Harding played vital role in Britain’s biggest child sex ring
by James Fielding
Sunday Express, 10th May 2015
 The pervert met regularly with MPs Leon Brittan and Cyril Smith at his world-renowned workshop.

The former Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe would also drop by along with key members of the vile Paedophile Information Exchange Steven Adrian Smith and Tom O’Carroll.

A PIE list seized in 1984 records Harding, who died from cancer last year aged 82, as member 329 and his address as Hornsey Road, Holloway, north London.

He is understood to have kept hidden a list of more than 1,000 PIE members with prominent names including top politicians from the Thatcher era.

One of his staff, who worked for him between 1980 and 1987, said: “Leon Brittan and Cyril Smith were both regular visitors to the shop.Usually they would come in via the side door, other times they would ring the bell at the front entrance and come in.“They’d straight away ask for Keith who would be coming down the stairs.

“Then they would then either go up to his office for a private meeting or they’d go out for several hours.”

The former worker added: “The shop had many high profile customers, including the Royals, because we were one of the few antique dealers in the world that specialised in restoring clocks, music boxes and automatons.

“It’s only now, with what I know about Brittan and Smith, and of course Keith, that has made me wonder what they were doing. Jeremy Thorpe too was an occasional visitor.”

Harding was given the Freedom of the City of London and made a member of the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers.He moved to Gloucester in 1987 after PIE disbanded, setting up Keith Harding’s World of Mechanical Music, a museum in Northleach, near Cheltenham.He was exposed as a member of PIE last November when footage emerged of him appearing alongside Jimmy Savile on a Christmas special of Jim’ll Fix It.

It later transpired that he had been convicted of indecent assault against four children aged eight and nine in 1958 when he was a teacher.

He apparently confessed to a friend he had the list of names kept in a safe.

Harding’s civil partner John Ferris, who now runs the museum, said yesterday: “I know nothing of any list. The safe is empty now. Keith never disclosed much about his life in London. I only met him in 1994 and I never knew he was a part of the Paedophile Information Exchange.”


Keith Harding